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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 22 2013, 04:43 AM (7,433 Views) | |
| Crouchy | Aug 22 2013, 01:51 PM Post #16 |
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I dont think the 4-4-2 is back in a sense that most teams will ever adopt it again. I think the top teams will at home because teams will sit back on them so they can afford to take one body from the midfield and put him up front. We do it quite a bit at home ourselves. It is a good option to have.I much rather the diamond 4-4-2 |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 01:59 PM Post #17 |
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Italy and Prandelli find this post hilarious. Spain/Italy/Brazil/Germany/Netherlands are tactically flexible sides and are the very top tier, it doesn't take a genius to conclude that I wasn't talking about Nigeria or Uruguay. |
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| DaG | Aug 22 2013, 02:06 PM Post #18 |
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Explain. |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:14 PM Post #19 |
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"only in a country like Spain or Germany can a manager be tactically flexible," That's bullshit considering Prandelli has been as flexible as fuck for the past 3 years, case in point being Pirlo playing LM in a 442, deep lying playmaker in a diamond, CAM in a 4312 and CM in a 433/4312. |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:19 PM Post #20 |
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Then it's not a 442, why do you keep referring to it as a 442 when you're not playing 2 flat strikers, it's a 4411 then. I'm gonna presume that Cavani doesn't play off Ibrahimovic and vice versa, so that's a 442. We don't play 2 flat strikers and haven't done for a long, long while so we haven't played 442 for a v.long time so it's not been there or "back" for us. 4411/4231/451, call it whatever you want but it's not a 442. Not to mention that we actually play 4231, to say Nani/Young/Zaha/Kagawa are wingers in a 442/4411 formation is pretty silly. |
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| DaG | Aug 22 2013, 02:23 PM Post #21 |
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You're getting silly now. You can't expect me to describe Barca as 1-2-3-1-2-2.
Edited by DaG, Aug 22 2013, 02:23 PM.
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:28 PM Post #22 |
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(a) All that matters is the midfield/attack. (b) It's difficult to define a team by a single formation (c) It's even more so difficult to define a team by a single formation as fluid as United or as fluid and as complex as Barca. There's quite a difference between a "442" (what is actually a 4411) and a 4231, namely the wingers which you've seemingly decided to overlook. Like I said, Nani/Young/Zaha/Kagawa are not wide midfielders deeper in a 4411. |
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| Scholes | Aug 22 2013, 02:30 PM Post #23 |
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Hate it when ZZ starts effectively bullet pointing. |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:36 PM Post #24 |
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4231/4321/451/352/4222/433/4312/4411/442 are the formations. Hardly silly when there's 9 formations to choose from. ---------Yorke------Cole------- Giggs--Keane--Scholes---Beckham a la '99 ^^^ That is 442. ----------Van Nistelrooy---------- ------------Scholes-------------- Giggs---Keane--Fletcher---Beckham a la '03 That is a 4411, but apparently, considering Scholes is a midfielder, that changes it to a 4231 (like I said, taking not even taking into account the wide players) ----------Van Nistelrooy--------- Giggs-------Rooney--------Ronaldo --------Keane----Scholes-------- a la '05. That is a 4231, taking into account the wingers. I'll say it again, Young & Nani & Kagawa & Zaha are not wide men in a 442 or a 4411. |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:37 PM Post #25 |
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I hate it when you like shit posts. |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:39 PM Post #26 |
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You're chatting shit, Mert. There's a quite a difference between a 442 and a 4411 considering one is the produce of the 20th century and the other the 21st and considering one is relevant in modern football and the other isn't. It's not my fault you don't know the difference between a wide man in a 442/4411 and a 4231 which is pretty fucking simple. How you can say that Kagawa or Nani ffs are wide men in a 442 is pretty gay. Simple stuff. Twat. |
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What doesn't make the likes of Nani or Young wide men in a 442, out of interest? |
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| ZeeZoo | Aug 22 2013, 02:44 PM Post #28 |
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Because they're positioned advanced on the wings. Edited by ZeeZoo, Aug 22 2013, 02:44 PM.
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| DaG | Aug 22 2013, 02:45 PM Post #29 |
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United have never played a '442' according to SAF. I'll still call it a 442, it's just easier and makes more sense to me. |
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| DaG | Aug 22 2013, 02:48 PM Post #30 |
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Also, let's not forget that in the OP I said 'variations'. |
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