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Topic Started: Jul 29 2013, 04:56 PM (1,787 Views)
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On a good day Di Maria is quality and would walk into our side. But hes so inconsistent. On a bad day, Young Nani Nuno and Zaha would all have a chance.

I dont think he is a sufficient upgrade on what we already have

Yep that was my point, aguero rvp are the top 2 goalscorers in the Premier League as roondong and torres were all those years ago
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Suarez > Aguero

Drogba > Rooney
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Jul 29 2013, 06:56 PM
Drogba > Rooney
Yeh.
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Haha do me a favour. Suarez is a good player. But Aguero scores goals.
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And Suarez doesnt? lmfao. was winning golden boot race before his suspension
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Not on a consistent basis. Look at the importance of the goals that RVP scored this season and Aguero scored last season.

Suarez just scores hattricks against Norwich when the game is already won - its like when Berbatov won it a few seasons ago.

Suarez is a good player, but he lacks consistency when it comes to finishing chances.
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They have virtually identical scoring records, but Aguero converts more of his chances. Scores more important goals too, and doesn't have the side built around him like Suarez does.
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if youre talking about natural goalscorers you have a point, but as footballers Suarez is right up there, RVP is very clinical when he gets given chances but Suarez' own genius creates his own chances , so he is allowed a lower conversion rate, as dag would tell you. And he doesnt score hattrivks when games are already won, he wins games by scoring hattricks
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I agree, Suarez has phenomenal technical ability, but a strikers job is to score, and Suarez doesn't do it consistently enough, he may create his own chances, but if he wastes them whats the point in creating them? Maybe his move out to the left as a support striker with Sturridge through the middle may help him a bit.

Talking about a striker being allowed to have a lower conversion rate is a bit peculiar and counterproductive.

Ill compare his scoring record to that of Berbatovs again. When Berbatov top scored he scored 5 against Blackburn and 3 against Liverpool with his total for the season reaching upwards of 20 goals. But most of his goals came from matches against poor teams like the two I just mentioned ;).

I think the similar is happening with Suarez, possibly one of the reasons you had such a poor record against the top ten last season.

Whilst Suarez may be a better footballer, Aguero is a better striker
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Suarez wouldnt be playing from the left thats where coutinho plays, if they play together suarez would be just behind him, and that did work very well last season. But ideally we would sign a new player to play behind suarez with a great understanding with him because suarez will score goals for fun next season with Coutinho and Aspas being kings of assists , add another player into that mix and im sure suarez' conversion rate will rocket.
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Gareth Barry - No. He's not a very good 'pivot' player IMO, certainly not as good as any of the options already at Arsenal. Also not a better box to box player than Ramsey, who will continue to get better and better.

Christian Eriksen - Had to think about this one for quite a bit. Decided no. He's a very good attacking midfielder but I don't think he could provide us with enough creativity/control to justify dropping Podolski from the left to accommodate him.

Pepe Reina - I'll go with yes. Szczesny is very hit or miss and in 3 years of first team football still hasn't seemed to improve his weaknesses and Fabianski is very injury prone. I think with a fresh start Reina can recapture his best form. Still young for a GK.

Rio Ferdinand - Only question mark over Rio is fitness. If he's fit he walks right into the side and partners Koscielny. 'Perfect' centre back pairing on paper.

Angel Di Maria - I'd have Di Maria over Podolski. He's not as clinical as the German but he's a better provider, superior defensively, and offer more in possession. Could also move him to the right if Walcott is out of form or not fit.

David Silva - Fantastic player to watch at times but I'm going to say no. Simply not as effective as he should be and lacks consistency.

Philippe Coutinho - Potentially yes, but for right now I'm going to say now. In theory he would work brilliantly interchanging between the lines with Cazorla, however as I stated with Eriksen earlier, not sure he provides enough in areas other than goals/assists to justify dropping Podolski who is going to get 10/10 in the PL no problems. I do think Coutinho has more in his locker than Eriksen though.

Oscar - Yes. Could play Oscar in a few different positions, but #10 with Santi moved to the left/right would be perfect. Oscar's engine, work rate, and tactical ability would greatly aid a double pivot of Wilshere and Ramsey.

Sergio Aguero - Yes, Aguero would easily be our best attacker. Could play him #9 or behind Giroud in a 4411/4231 set up.

Rafael - No. Bacary Sagna when fully fit and in form is still the best RB in the PL for me.
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Jul 29 2013, 05:25 PM
Gareth Barry - yes
Christian Eriksen - yes
Pepe Reina - no
Rio Ferdinand - yes
Angel Di Maria - yes
David Silva - yes*
Philippe Coutinho - yes*
Oscar - yes
Sergio Aguero - yes*
Rafael - yes


* depending on formation
Why do Coutinho and Silva depend on formation and not Eriksen?
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Podolski over coutinho and eriksen lol
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Gareth Barry - Sadly yes, but it's not saying a lot about Barry because I'd get in our current midfield.
Christian Eriksen - Kagawa
Pepe Reina - Dave is younger and better.
Rio Ferdinand - Yes
Angel Di Maria - YES PLEASE
David Silva - Hard one. I'd rather have Kagawa but Silva is better. I suppose you could ship one onto the left.
Philippe Coutinho - No
Oscar - Yes, can play in numerous positions
Sergio Aguero - Depends on formation.
Rafael - Yes.
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Jul 29 2013, 06:50 PM
On a good day Di Maria is quality and would walk into our side. But hes so inconsistent. On a bad day, Young Nani Nuno and Zaha would all have a chance.

I dont think he is a sufficient upgrade on what we already have

Yep that was my point, aguero rvp are the top 2 goalscorers in the Premier League as roondong and torres were all those years ago
Di Maria would be our best winger by some distance.
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