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The Bundesliga is the envy of them all; No.1
Topic Started: Sep 20 2011, 04:53 PM (794 Views)
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Bayern Munich president Uli Hoeness believes that the Bundesliga is Europe's second-best league, behind Spain's La Liga and ahead of the Premier League.

Officially, Germany's Bundesliga rank third in UEFA's association league coefficient ranking, behind Spain's La Liga and leaders England's Premier League.

The UEFA ranking is calculated by the performance of the country's clubs in the continental competitions, but Hoeness has begged to differ on the issue, stating his opinion that the English league should be ranked third.

He told Bild am Sonntag: "We are currently number two behind Spain. Italy, we have long left behind us; England, we are just about to leave behind.

"Based on the full breadth, I would consider the Bundesliga even today as the strongest league in the world."


With four different teams winning the Bundesliga title in the past five years, Hoeness has a valid point.

As compared, both Spain and England's domestic league has seen only two winners since 2004; the La Liga title has been shared between Barcelona and Real Madrid while the Premier League trophy has only been lifted by Manchester United and Chelsea in the past seven seasons.
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lol someone shoot this lad.
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Define strength in this context?

There's a big difference between strongest and most competitive. Bundesliga is clearly not as strong as the PL.
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The Premier League is the best, no question about that imo.The Bundesliga is better than La Liga and Serie A though.
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No its not, La Liga is far better than the German league.
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Sep 20 2011, 04:56 PM
lol someone shoot this lad.
These arent my views :hysterics: :hysterics:

Personally I do believe the Bundesliga is the best run and most competitive league in Europe but as for being the strongest then I find that a bit far fetched.
However if you took RM and Barca out of La Liga then the Bundesliga would streets ahead nevertheless the PL is and will always be the top league in my eyes.
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La Liga is a glorified SPL. The Bundesliga has quality throughout, and the top teams to match most teams in world football, as Arsenal found out last week.
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Sep 20 2011, 05:01 PM
These arent my views :hysterics: :hysterics:

Cheers mate, I didn't know. Wanker.

Also, teams like Villarreal, Sevilla, Valencia, and Ath. Madrid would bash in the test of the top 5 in the Bundesliga. Not to mention Malaga who are on the rise. Don't you remember Villarreal smashing the shit out of Leverkusen?
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Bundesliga comes of age as Real Madrid & Arsenal are stunned

Borussia Dortmund and Schalke both claimed historic wins in the Champions League on Wednesday, showing that Germany's top flight finally has three fine teams to boast

Given the inglorious manner in which Borussia Dortmund were beaten by Schalke in the Revierderby on Saturday, the general pessimism surrounding German football in recent months, and Real Madrid's world class pedigree, one could be forgiven for thinking that the Schwarzgelben would be in for a nasty evening when they entertained the Spanish champions on Wednesday.

However, following a fantastic 2-1 triumph at the Westfalenstadion, Jurgen Klopp's side find themselves in a strong position to qualify from the 'group of death', having collected seven points from their first three matches. When the draw was made in late August, that certainly seemed to be a distant dream.

In many ways, Dortmund's forays into Europe have mirrored the fortunes of the Bundesliga. Backed by sell-out crowds (who did not have to pay big money for a ticket), and boasting a fine team of young players with an innovative coach who has his teams play slick football, much was expected of them.

However, they flattered to deceive with the eyes of the world watching, crashing out at the group stage of the Champions League in 2011-12 after a series of limp performances. There had been no improvement on their Europa League campaign of the previous season, which also saw them fall at the first hurdle.

All of the problems that have been plaguing Germany at international level in major tournaments were rife in Klopp's team - the inability to finish chances, the naivety in big matches and the shambolic defending when it mattered most.

This term, however, they have been an entirely different proposition. They dug in against Ajax on matchday one, and showed the mental strength to recover from a penalty miss to record a late victory.

In their second game, against Manchester City, their biggest rivals for second spot in the group, they dominated the English champions from start to finish, only to be denied a famous victory by a combination of a Joe Hart masterclass in the hosts' goal and a dubious Mario Balotelli penalty in the dying seconds.

They truly announced themselves to the world on Wednesday, though. Klopp's side were brave, putting themselves on the line for the team, and running Madrid's midfield into the ground.

Sebastian Kehl, the elder statesman of the team, twice came close to breaking the deadlock before Robert Lewandowski's opener, while Mario Gotze also forced a good stop from Iker Casillas. At the other end, Roman Weidenfeller barely had a save to make. The win was no fluke - it was calculated and deserved.

Meanwhile, at the Emirates, Arsenal saw their proud record of not having lost a home European game to foreign opposition in a decade shattered by a brilliant Schalke performance.

The Konigsblauen, unlike their hated Ruhr rivals Dortmund, have built up more of a reputation in Europe in recent years, thanks to a run to the Champions League semi-finals two campaigns ago, but with the exception of the 7-3 aggregate victory over a shambolic Inter, they were yet to claim a big-name scalp.

The Gunners, usually so fluid in attack, failed to register a shot on target until stoppage time at the end of the second half, finding their path to goal blocked by Roman Neustadter in midfield and Benedikt Howedes in defence. Both players played with experience beyond their tender years.

Going forward, Arsenal were lucky not to be reduced to 10 men after Vito Mannone felled Ibrahim Afellay in the first half, while Schalke missed a string of easy chances to take the lead long before Klaas-Jan Huntelaar's 76th minute opener.

Like Dortmund, Schalke were simply superior to their opponents in a tactical sense and fully deserved to come away from the clash with the full three points.

Around 600 kilometres south of Dortmund and Gelsenkirchen, Bayern Munich, eager to avenge last season's humiliation have enjoyed a near immaculate start to the season, and it seems that Germany can finally boast three credible continental teams.
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The Bundesliga has.....

-The best organisation

-Best young fans in Europe

-Almost every stadium is always full.....why? because the matches are desirable but most of all the ticket prices are dirt cheap

-Scouring the Asian market for the best upcoming talents

-Almost every club is in a healthy financial position

-Matchday entertainment on show

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Oct 26 2012, 03:40 AM
-Best young fans in Europe





Elaborate.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Oct 26 2012, 11:52 AM
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Oct 26 2012, 03:40 AM
-Best young fans in Europe





Elaborate.
The Bundesliga prominently has more young supporters at the grounds than anywhere in Western Europe and the fact the ticket prices are extremely cheap enables families and young people to go on a regulary basis. In England even the working class people struggle to go to matches regularly but in Germany you can be 18 or even younger and it wouldn't be a problem.
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So what makes them better than the young fans who can afford to go to games in other countries?
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Oct 26 2012, 05:15 PM
So what makes them better than the young fans who can afford to go to games in other countries?
There is a more organised atmosphere almost as if it has been orchestrated much like in Greece for eg with the leaders sitting on the fence with their microphone and getting everyone to jump and sing to their heart's content.

Old Trafford has to be one of the worst European venues on show for atmosphere
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Oct 26 2012, 05:20 PM
There is a more organised atmosphere almost as if it has been orchestrated much like in Greece for eg with the leaders sitting on the fence with their microphone and getting everyone to jump and sing to their heart's content.

In other words, completely artificial. They pump noise into the arenas from speakers in the Bundesliga.
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