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River Plate 90 minutes from relegation
Topic Started: Jun 24 2011, 01:10 AM (1,564 Views)
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River Plate are 90 minutes away from being relegated for the first time after the record 33 times Argentine champions lost 2-0 at modest Belgrano in the first leg of a playoff on Wednesday.

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Goals either side of halftime from midfielder Cesar Mansanelli and striker Cesar Pereyra gave the second-tier Nacional B side the victory that put them on the verge of a place in the top flight.


River, whose last title was in the second half of the 2007-08 season, find themselves in the dire situation as a result of their poor three-season points average that determines relegation in Argentina.


The match was interrupted for 20 minutes after River went two goals behind early in the second half. Some of their fans broke a hole in the perimeter fence and stormed onto the pitch in the city of Cordoba.


The fans remonstrated with their own team's players, demanding more effort from them, before being ejected and order was gradually restored.


Belgrano went ahead with a penalty converted by Mansanelli midway through the first half after defender Adalberto Roman handled at a corner.

They added the second five minutes into the second half when defender Luciano Lollo glanced Mansanelli's corner towards the far post where Pereyra turned it past goalkeeper Juan Pablo Carrizo into the net.

Belgrano midfielder Franco Vazquez had a chance to bury River near the end when defender Jonatan Maidana slipped and lost possession but he hurried his shot over from the edge of the box.

River had dropped experienced strikers Mariano Pavone and Leandro Caruso in favour of youth, and while 37-year-old Matias Almeyda gave his all in the midfield holding position his lack of pace was often exposed.

River had several chances from free kicks, corners and long range shots but Belgrano goalkeeper Juan Carlos Olave was equal to them all, highlighted by a superb stop from Carlos Arano's drive.

They lost their shape, and their discipline, as the match wore. Captain Almeyda, Roman and defender Paulo Ferrari were booked and will miss the second leg through suspension having accumulated five yellow cards.

River need to get back on level terms in the return leg at the Monumental on Sunday and will survive with an aggregate draw as the result favours first division sides.
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Yeah bloody hell, I couldn't believe when I heard they were 2-0 down and 90mins away from relegation. Equivalent of Man Utd/Liverpool relegated. Would be such a shame to see a club the size of theirs go down. :(
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It's hardly the equivalent of that...
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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They're the biggest club in their country, 2nd to Boca at worst. They hold the record for most league wins, the last of which was in 2008. If that's not the equivalent then there is no equivalent.
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United or Liverpool going down would be far more shocking than a scummy Argentine club like them going down....United and Liverpool are huge, stable clubs and will never get relegated unless football goes completely mad.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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The stability that Utd and Liverpool enjoy is simply not possible in Argentina. By that line of reasoning it's more shocking for Man City or Chelsea to go down than it is for River to go down.

You see you're getting into economic reasons now, you just can't compare the two football associations. Different worlds, let alone continents. I'm talking about a country's biggest club being relegated, simple as that. And River Plate being relegated IS the equivalent of Man Utd or Liverpool going down and it's not even debatable.
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It's the equivalent in that aspect yeh....admittedly I don't watch South American club football but I'm pretty sure whilst River Plate facing relegation is big news, and a big shock, it's not on the same scale as Liverpool or United going down.

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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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I'm surprised river haven't been relegated. I guess they never really had much competition other than boca over the decades. They are a big name but by no means are they a big club. They probably don't have a single player that would get into the top 10 pl sides starting 11. I dont think their relegation would have much impact on world football.
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But it's on the same scale as Man Utd being relegated in 1974 was to an Argentine.
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It's a bit insulting to say they're not a big club. They're arguably the biggest club outside of Europe. Just because they're in a country and continent that can't possibly market itself and compete with European football clubs doesn't mean they can't qualify as big.
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Why can't they compete with Europe. They produce by far the most footballers, and judging by international squads they have some of the most technically gifted. Hell, they boast the best players of all time. They have a large audience, just as big as Europe imo. They are trapped in a stupid cycle, where they are penny smart but pound dumb. They sell star names for big money but use it to line their pockets. If they keep them, they would attract audiences and asias attention. Build a better league organically and in a few years the copa libertadores will actually mean something.

Lol but on topic, river plate are not a big club. Nowhere near the scale of the European elite. In fact midtable teams in 4 of the biggest leagues have more pulling power than river. They are a big name from the past.
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Jun 24 2011, 03:13 AM
Why can't they compete with Europe. They produce by far the most footballers, and judging by international squads they have some of the most technically gifted. Hell, they boast the best players of all time. They have a large audience, just as big as Europe imo. They are trapped in a stupid cycle, where they are penny smart but pound dumb. They sell star names for big money but use it to line their pockets. If they keep them, they would attract audiences and asias attention. Build a better league organically and in a few years the copa libertadores will actually mean something.

Lol but on topic, river plate are not a big club. Nowhere near the scale of the European elite. In fact midtable teams in 4 of the biggest leagues have more pulling power than river. They are a big name from the past.
Money, corruption and the prestige of Europe are massive factors mate.

And Scholes is chatting shit, it is exactly like United or Liverpool going down, and that's not even mentioning the fact it's much harder for a big team to get relegated in Argentina than in the European Leagues.
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What the fuck am I reading, of course River Plate are a big club ffs, the fact you know who they are when you could barely tell me 5 other Argentine sides speaks volumes, they play in an iconic stadium, they've won more Argentine titles than any other club, they're a global brand, any football fan in the world recognises their club crest, you can go to Sports Direct and see their shirts in there, I've seen their shirts in Mallorca for God sake.

They've had some of the all time great players as well as producing some of the most exciting young talents ever; Batistuta, Kempes, Crespo, Salas, Almeyda, Ortega, Ayala, Aimar, Solari, Cambiasso, Mascherano plus so many more. As recently as the last few years they've sold Alexis Sanchez, Falcao and Higuain. This is a massive club we're talking about, not just anybody, it will be a massive blow to Argentine football if they are relegated.
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Jun 24 2011, 01:08 PM
What the fuck am I reading, of course River Plate are a big club ffs, the fact you know who they are when you could barely tell me 5 other Argentine sides speaks volumes, they play in an iconic stadium, they've won more Argentine titles than any other club, they're a global brand, any football fan in the world recognises their club crest, you can go to Sports Direct and see their shirts in there, I've seen their shirts in Mallorca for God sake.

They've had some of the all time great players as well as producing some of the most exciting young talents ever; Batistuta, Kempes, Crespo, Salas, Almeyda, Ortega, Ayala, Aimar, Solari, Cambiasso, Mascherano plus so many more. As recently as the last few years they've sold Alexis Sanchez, Falcao and Higuain. This is a massive club we're talking about, not just anybody, it will be a massive blow to Argentine football if they are relegated.
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Jun 24 2011, 03:13 AM
Lol but on topic, river plate are not a big club. Nowhere near the scale of the European elite. In fact midtable teams in 4 of the biggest leagues have more pulling power than river. They are a big name from the past.
Man City have more pulling power than Liverpool, than Bayern, than Ajax, probably more than AC Milan. Insert your brain ffs surely you know by now that pulling power has little to do with being a big club.
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