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Liverpool FC are back!!! King Kenny has changed everything; Andy Carroll+Luis Suarez
Topic Started: Feb 3 2011, 10:02 PM (9,348 Views)
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i certainly wasnt using the unfit excuse for him he has been out of form all season and most of last season
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When others said he was out of form last season, you all replied "18 goals in 22 games, that's not out of form". Now he's not your player anymore things have changed though, suddenly he's "injury prone and his form is patchy" again.
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He's never had a problem with being unfit. The problem was how he was being used. And he was still our highest contributer, scored or assisted in every point we won bar 4. He's the best striker in the world, Liverpool player or not, and any Liverpool fan that says different is a fickle bitch.

Turns out we massively undervalued Torres btw :hysterics:

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Liverpool owner John W Henry has stated the deal to bring Andy Carroll to the club made financial sense.

His club stunned the Premier League earlier this week when they paid a British transfer record (£35million) to sign the England international.

At just 22, he was involved in a transfer that raised eyebrows across the nation.

However, Henry feels it made sense because they were only paying money they had in turn received from the other record breaking sale of Fernando Torres to Chelsea for £50million.
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"The fee for Torres was dependent on what Newcastle asked for Carroll," he told the Guardian, explaining that Liverpool wanted Carroll, plus £15m, to replace Torres.

"The negotiation for us was simply the difference in prices paid by Chelsea and Newcastle.

"Those prices could have been £35m [from Chelsea for Torres] and £20m [to Newcastle for Carroll], 40 and 25 or 50 and 35.

"It was ultimately up to Newcastle how much this was all going to cost. They [Newcastle] made a hell of a deal. We felt the same way."

Investment

Despite the huge investment in the squad in January, Henry has intimated that he and the other investors will not be pouring money into the club.

The transfer policy will be to get emerging talent that can be sold at a profit if need be.

"We intend to get younger, deeper and play positive football. Adding two top players [Carroll and Suarez] who have just turned 22 and 24 is a good first step," he added.

Kenny Dalglish was appointed on a caretaker basis and after a baptism of fire in his first game at Old Trafford against Manchester United, he appears to be having an effect on the fortunes of the team.

The former player-manager has gone on record as stating that he wants the job, and while the signs look positive that he might get the job on a full-time basis, Henry refused to comment.

"We didn't know Kenny well prior to him coming aboard as manger. But he has exceeded our expectations on all fronts," he said.

"It would be inappropriate to comment publicly on what happens beyond the end of this season."

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chelsea are fucking morons if they agreed to that
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The Scousers are so fucking desperate to justify his price tag.
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Fernando Torres has not spoken to Kenny Dalglish since signing for Chelsea, but there is one nugget of advice from the Liverpool manager which rang true as he prepared for his first appearance as a £50million striker.

When Torres moved to Anfield, Dalglish told him not to kiss the badge on his shirt unless he really meant it.

Those who stood on the Kop would know the truth, explained the Scot. Three-and-a-half years later, as he braced himself for a debut against Liverpool, his assessment of modern football was as cool and clinical as his finishing.

Romance is dead. Why pretend otherwise?

'I never kissed the Liverpool badge,' said Torres. 'Never. No. Kissed the badge? No. I never did. I never did when I was at Atletico Madrid, and I love Atletico, my former club. I see some players doing that when they join a club but the romance in football has gone. It's a different thing now. People are coming and leaving. When you are joining a club you want to do the best for yourself and that club and that's all.

'Some people like to kiss the badge. They can do it. I only want to score goals and do my job and achieve all the targets the team has. When I was born in Madrid I was not a Liverpool fan or a Chelsea fan. I was only an Atletico Madrid fan. I still am. Maybe it's the only badge I will kiss if I have to kiss one.'

When Torres arrived on Merseyside he found himself lying low in a hotel room as he waited to sign, passing the time by watching DVDs and reading books about his new city, his new club and legends like Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Dalglish.

By last month, the bond had diminished, overtaken by ambition and the fear of wasting his best years at Anfield as the club chased past glories against a backdrop of boardroom squabbles as Tom Hicks and George Gillett tried to sell.

Doubts had started to creep in long ago when Xabi Alonso and Javier Mascherano were allowed to leave the club for Real Madrid and Barcelona.

'It wasn't just last summer, really,' said Torres. 'Maybe the last two years. Especially with the old owners. I think when the new owner, John Henry, came and brought his team with him, the club were moving in the right direction.
Joining forces: Terry (right) will hope Torres (left) scores at the other end

Joining forces: Terry (right) will hope Torres (left) scores at the other end

'They have ambition and they know how to do things and go back to the way they were.

'It is my opinion, though, that they need time for that. Maybe they will need the time while I'm at my best age to play football.

'I took the decision to leave because I heard about Chelsea's interest. They were pushing hard for me, which meant they really wanted me. I really wanted to leave Liverpool, so I told them straight.
Badge kisser: Ex-West Ham man Frank Lampard is a true Blue

Badge kisser: Ex-West Ham man Frank Lampard is a true Blue

'If no-one had wanted me, I would have played happily. It's been a very tough season. The progress has not been the best. They've had problems and are in a difficult moment but I helped the team and did my job all the time.

'I explained my situation, my feelings, and was honest with everyone. I told everyone, face to face, my feelings and that I wanted to leave for Chelsea.

'They didn't hear that in the press. They heard it from me. That was maybe 10 or 12 days before the window closed. They didn't want me to leave.

'They tried to ask me to stay. I told them my decision was made and I wasn't going to change my mind. So they tried to get the best money and a replacement.

'I understand their position. I told them what I wanted, and I had to wait until the last few minutes of the window to sign.'

This timescale puts the transfer request somewhere after the 2-2 draw against Everton at Anfield and before the win against Wolverhampton Wanderers at Molineux, when Torres scored twice.

It was more than a week later when Chelsea's swoop became public and the record transfer accelerated towards its conclusion on deadline day, last Monday.
PAYING THE PRICE

Chelsea’s annual wage bill has soared to £172.5million — and that’s before they pay Fernando Torres £175,000 a week. The figure is almost £40m more than Manchester City (£133.3m), according to official accounts for the year ending June 2010. Manchester United have the third largest salary bill at £131.7m, while Arsenal’s is £110m.

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard would have known better than most the dilemma Torres had been wrestling with, having twice come close to leaving Anfield for Stamford Bridge.

Ultimately, Gerrard opted to stay on Merseyside but, when he learned of Chelsea's move for Torres, he phoned his team-mate to wish him luck.

'He was one of the first ones who called me and said if I left, if I stayed, he would help me and support me,' said Torres.

'Maybe because he was in that situation first. He's been a very good friend and team-mate from the first to the last day.

'He only wanted the best for me and said he'd agree with whatever decision I made.'
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"It was ultimately up to Newcastle how much this was all going to cost. They [Newcastle] made a hell of a deal. We felt the same way."

that cant be true, i literally can not believe that chelsea would let a third club dictate what they would pay a club for their player.
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Fair enough Nando.
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Lol Chelsea have stolen our Torres banner and turned it blue, even left the bit that's supposed to be the Shankly gates :hsyterics:
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He's the best striker in the world, Liverpool player or not, and any Liverpool fan that says different is a fickle bitch.

No they've just heard of Lionel Messi.
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Messi isn't a striker.
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You sure?
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Even if Messi wasn't a striker which he is they've heard of David Villa.
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Messi is a forward in my book.
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So what on earth is a striker in your book? Seeing as being the spearhead of a front 3 doesn't make you one :lol:
Edited by Goonie, Feb 5 2011, 03:00 PM.
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