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Topic Started: Oct 18 2010, 11:53 AM (1,093 Views)
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Milan need a couple good CMs much more than they need full backs.
Edited by DaG, Oct 27 2010, 01:37 PM.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:35 PM
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Oct 27 2010, 01:35 PM
Wtf?!? Not as valuable as Oezil? Gay.

He's not. Ozil plays a position where its much harder to find very good players, he's a better player, and he's a lot younger. Its not rocket science. Ozil is also more marketable.
Oh okay, so what world central midfielders are available atm?

Marketable? Take a look at his face. Bastian is the main face for Germany.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:38 PM
Oh okay, so what world central midfielders are available atm?

Marketable? Take a look at his face. Bastian is the main face for Germany.
There aren't many world class CMs available, but CM is a position all about consistency. The position isn't measured by goals and assists, you need players in there who can pass, cover ground, and win the ball. Consistent 7/10s. A world class attacker is always worth more than a world class CM for me, unless you're talking about a peak Vieira or someone like that. Milan don't need world class CMs, they simply need a couple very good young CMs who can improve on the utter shite Gattuso and Ambrosini and form an understanding with Boateng.

As for the marketability bit, Ozil is definitely bigger than Pig Farmer. He's Nike's main man in Germany and he's the face of this new German youth movement which involves a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:37 PM
Milan need a couple good CMs much more than they need full backs.
Don't be queer. KPB and Flamini are very good back-ups. Pirlo still has a lot to offer, whilst Gattuso (who played very well against Napoli) his hit and miss atm. The problem of the central midfield is the continued persistence in playing the veterans, and not promoting the likes of Strasser and Merkel.

The full-backs situation cannot continue. Abate, Oddo and Janku are not good enough. Zambrotta is ageing, and Antonini - although a good player, is tactically hopeless.
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Oct 27 2010, 01:44 PM
Don't be queer. KPB and Flamini are very good back-ups. Pirlo still has a lot to offer, whilst Gattuso (who played very well against Napoli) his hit and miss atm. The problem of the central midfield is the continued persistence in playing the veterans, and not promoting the likes of Strasser and Merkel.

The full-backs situation cannot continue. Abate, Oddo and Janku are not good enough. Zambrotta is ageing, and Antonini - although a good player, is tactically hopeless.
Pirlo is on his last legs, his passing is still very good but he doesn't win the ball, its too easy for opposing mids to play. When you put Gattuso/Seedorf/Ambrosini in there with him its a disaster. Did you see the Real Madrid match and how easy it was for Madrid to play? Their midfield has been a joke in pretty much every match I've seen. Being out played by Cesena in there is a joke.
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I saw a Defour headline today title "No Utd contact". It's not confirmed anyways, Roy was out watching him the other week along with Lukaku. And Daglish was spotted watching Hazard.
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Pirlo is on his last legs, his passing is still very good but he doesn't win the ball, its too easy for opposing mids to play.

Hahahaha, "very good"? It's still sublime. Last season, Pirlo completed 2219 passes out of 2511 – that’s freaking 88% – not only is it the highest number of passes completed in Serie A, but also the best percentage in the league. He only lost the ball 52 times last season, and that stat is even more staggering considering the fact that 72% of his passes were in the opposing half. I really don't know why you're mentioning his "winning the ball" attribute, he's hardly renowned for it. But seeing as you've asked for it, he made 72 tackles/interceptions, that's one of his highest so far at Milan.

Pirlo is still a god. It is the full-backs alongside him, who are frankly jokes at times, who don't make enough runs (again highlighting Luca's lack of tactical awareness)

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hen you put Gattuso/Seedorf/Ambrosini in there with him its a disaster.

I didn't mention Seedorf & Ambrosini because it's clear for all to see, except from you wanking over Slowdorf last season at times, they are past it. And thus, again if you read carefully, why Milan need to start the younger stars. The athletic CMs who will give Pirlo increasing options.

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Being out played by Cesena in there is a joke.


Cesena was a one-off. Cesena were on the ball tactically, very good technical quality and their work-rate was very commendable. Massimiliano made some grave tactical erros. And again, Gattuso & Ambrosini started. Both were running up and down carelessly, and causing them to suffer later on. Poor tactical choices made, you had Dinho--Ibra---Pato (no defensive responsibilities), Pirlo (a real defensive stalwart...), and two old dogs. Like I said, one-off. But with the full-backs? Antonini clueless that game, and Milan started with Bonera FFS! Milan lacked width, the full-backs don't possess the pace, and hence they were bombarded by Cesena on the counter
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It wasn't a one off though, Milan have been shit in midfield for a while now.
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Midfield vs. Leece, Lazio, Napoli, Chievo, and Parma were all far from shit.

You just haven't watched them.
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It was a mare against Lazio lol, they were lucky not to lose that one. Hernanes' slow ass ran rings around them.

I've watched more Milan games than you have this season, that's a fact.
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Oct 27 2010, 02:21 PM
It was a mare against Lazio lol, they were lucky not to lose that one. Hernanes' slow ass ran rings around them.

I've watched more Milan games than you have this season, that's a fact.
The only shit midfielder on the pitch that day was Seedorf. Oh and lol, love how you've not mentioned any other of the games. :cheers:

Sure, okay then.
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Why would I mention games I didn't watch? I've watched 6 of Milan's games so far and half of the Napoli match.
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DaG, there are 9 million bicycles in Beijing? Is that a fact? Or is she chatting shit?
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Oct 27 2010, 02:27 PM
Why would I mention games I didn't watch? I've watched 6 of Milan's games so far and half of the Napoli match.
Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh, so you've conveniently not watched the games Milan have played well in? Works out well for you.

"Milan have been shit in midfield" - So you've seen half of Milan's games this season, and in the process you've "accurately" concluded - from conveniently games where Milan's midfield have played "shit" - that they have been shit?

You are a weird one, you.
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So basically you're telling me Milan's midfield is very inconsistent? Cheers mate.
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