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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 3 2010, 01:53 PM (116 Views) | |
| erm307 | Apr 3 2010, 01:53 PM Post #1 |
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Regardless of the outcome of the game today, how worrying is it that so many decisions are being made wrong? In this game alone there were 2 penalties, a handball goal and the most simple offside decision you could possibly make. ALL decisions were wrong. So yeah...how worrying is it? Are we seeing an increase in the amount of bad decisions? |
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| rollingstone | Apr 3 2010, 02:28 PM Post #2 |
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Yes good thread erm. I've actually been thinking about making a post on this issue recently, but fair play to you for stepping up. It is pathetic to be honest. In every game there are at least 4-5 blatantly wrong decisions, and none more is this the case than with penalties. Refs just seemed scared to give them for the slightly less violent challenges, as if the 18-yard rectangular white paint around the goal isn't part of the pitch. A foul in the box is a penalty, end of. It was such a relief to see the extra Europa League officials actually step up and give a couple of penos on Thursday in the Liverpool game. Both incidents were fouls, however light the first one might have been, and Benfica got exactly what they deserved. Officials are defining the outcomes of games now more than ever. Perhaps this is because of the heightened pace of the modern game, but if that's the case then things need to be done to keep up with it. The extra officials plan is one that simply has to be proliferated. |
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| ManYou | Apr 3 2010, 03:02 PM Post #3 |
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That thing they do in the Europa League with the extra officials is the way forward. Great idea, look to be working well. What's the bets, UEFA/FIFA ditch it after this season. Idiots. |
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| GUNBERG | Apr 3 2010, 05:51 PM Post #4 |
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Officials seem to have been especially poor this season.What annoys me is the fact that they are getting the simple decisions wrong when they actually see them!The Europa League introduced more officials but in the group stages,even they failed to spot an obvious pen (can't remember the game).A video ref is needed to watch the game in real time with quick replay to help the ref.Arsenal have been denied 6 pens this season alone and we would be 1 point behind Chelsea if the linesman had raised his flag vs Brum.I'm yet to be convinced that decisions even themselves out.One idea would be to have more refs officiating as linesman eg a trio of Webb,Clattenburg and Riley.These are meant to be the top officials so they should be able to cope. |
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| rollingstone | Apr 3 2010, 06:30 PM Post #5 |
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It is an obvious fact that decisions do not even themselves out. I don't know which idiot came up with that idea but it's pure bollocks. |
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| rollingstone | Apr 9 2010, 08:24 PM Post #6 |
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Simon Barnes on the pathetic state of modern refereeing and the reasons for it: No referee is capable of being in the right place to make correct decisions with every incident in a match. It’s not physically possible. The most that can be said is that the best referees are the least imperfect. Perfection in refereeing is simply unattainable. This is a problem for two reasons. The first is that in football, the value of the currency is uniquely high. A goal changes a match from top to bottom. One refereeing decision — correct or incorrect — can, and often does, change a game. The second is that football is now contested for ludicrously high stakes. Matches are often played for millions. To make or fail to make the Champions League, to make or fail to make the knockout stages, to get to the Coca-Cola Championship play-off final with a place in the Premier League at stake — these matches are worth incomprehensible sums of money. And yet the refereeing of them is based on the system used for amateur games, when everyone was there for fun. Fairly serious fun, but fun nonetheless, and at the end of the match you all shake hands and go back to real life. You take bad luck with the decisions in your stride. Part of the game. Character-building. But professional sport is real life for professional footballers and their managers. The problem is not just Ferguson’s sense of persecution and entitlement. It is also that football was not designed to be played for millions of quid. Fifa, notoriously conservative, maintains that human error is an essential part of the game. That implies an endorsement of the lesson Ferguson teaches us: that the best way to deal with personal misfortune is to find the person least capable of defending himself and heap the blame on him. There are changes that can be made to the way matches are officiated. Goalline technology is the most obvious one. Additional officials were posted behind the goal this season in the Europa League, which is a promising development if accurate decision-making is your aim. Needless to say, Fifa rejected the possibility of its use at the World Cup. Errors by officials are inescapable, and errors cannot help but have a huge impact on matches. It’s not referees that are at fault here. They are being used in a system that is inadequate for dealing with modern football. The problem is not referees but football. This really is a magnificent article, I read it in the paper today and just had that smile on my face when you get when someone has just nailed exactly what you've been thinking for fucking ages. (This is actually only the last few paragraphs of it, the first part was spent setting up this argument with reference to Fergie's latest outburst. If you want to read the full thing then here's the link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article7092400.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2) |
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