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Cristiano Ronaldo
Topic Started: Jun 11 2009, 09:09 PM (361 Views)
elcule
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phil16
Jun 11 2009, 10:32 PM
redDevilMoe
Jun 11 2009, 10:30 PM


plus ronaldo had a great team around him, cantona was surrounded by kids
Im surrounded by kids most the time doesnt mean im a united legend
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elcule
Jun 11 2009, 10:32 PM
phil16
Jun 11 2009, 10:32 PM
redDevilMoe
Jun 11 2009, 10:30 PM


plus ronaldo had a great team around him, cantona was surrounded by kids
Im surrounded by kids most the time doesnt mean im a united legend
:hysterics: :hysterics: :hysterics:
win 4 PL titles whilst trying to babysit, then i'll call you a legend
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Jun 11 2009, 10:33 PM
elcule
Jun 11 2009, 10:32 PM
phil16
Jun 11 2009, 10:32 PM
redDevilMoe
Jun 11 2009, 10:30 PM


plus ronaldo had a great team around him, cantona was surrounded by kids
Im surrounded by kids most the time doesnt mean im a united legend
:hysterics: :hysterics: :hysterics:
win 4 PL titles whilst trying to babysit, then i'll call you a legend
im not a babysitter, im a paedophile
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Jun 11 2009, 10:32 PM
redDevilMoe
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plus ronaldo had a great team around him, cantona was surrounded by kids
Im surrounded by kids most the time doesnt mean im a united legend
:hysterics: :hysterics: :hysterics:
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Eric Cantona played 16 European games for Utd and scored 5 goals, hardly a disasterous record and plenty of alledgedly top strikers would have had a worse record in their first 15/16 games. When Cantona played in Europe for us, there was a stupid rule where we could only field 3 non-British players, this meant leaving two of Schmeichel, Irwin, Keane, Kanchelskis or Cantona out of the team. It often came down to a pick between Schmeichel and Cantona but even still we could never field a full strength team. Cantona played in the 4-0 defeat to Barcelona in 1994, Schmeichel was left out of that game to accomodate him and I think he has been harshly judged for his European form ever since.

Cantona couldn't play in Europe for us in 1992/93 because he joined in January, in 1993/94 he scored 2 in 4, 0 in 2 in 1994/95, 1995/96 he didn't play in our disasterous games against Rotor Volgograd in the UEFA Cup and in 1996/97 he scored 3 in 10. Not the worst record.

On Ronaldo no he's not a legend but he's very close. Charlton, Best and Law are olden day legends. In modern times we have had many Cantona, Keane, Schmeichel are probably the standout ones but then you have Giggs and Scholes too. Ronaldo is behind every single one of them, in the 'almost legend' category. He's had some great years at th club helping us regain the title after 3 seasons without it and he was the catalyst in our CL winning season, Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke scored our goals en route to success in '99 but they're not automatic legends like Keane and Cantona. It takes more than great performances to be a legend.

Don't compare Ronaldo to Cantona, bloody hell, Eric is like a god to me and many other Utd fans, he helped start it all off for us in the 90's in a big way and for me he is miles ahead of Ronaldo in the legend stakes, even if Ronaldo stayed for another 3 years and we won a couple more CL's he still wouldn't overtake Cantona, King Eric had some powerful aura about him that Ronaldo simply doesn't have. He cared more about the club aswell and he felt the connection with Man Utd Football Club and the fans. As I said it takes more than some great performances and seasons to be a real legend, Real legend maybe! Ronaldo had the performances but what else did he have?

Great player, great Man Utd player but not a true legend for me. I've named the players I've watchd for years that are legends to me and I just don't feel that way about Ronaldo, not one bit. But again he has been a fantastic player for us.
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Jun 11 2009, 11:11 PM
there was a stupid rule where we could only field 3 non-British players, this meant leaving two of Schmeichel, Irwin, Keane, Kanchelskis or Cantona out of the team. It often came down to a pick between Schmeichel and Cantona
If he was THAT good there would be no question that he would be in the team ahead of those others , unless Irwin and kanchelskis are legends....
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Irwin is.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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ronaldo is not a united legend.hes not in the same legendary status as giggs,best,law,charlton or keane plus a few others.i probably wouldnt put him in the bracket below that which would include cantona,scholes,neville and schmeichel and a few others.he would be in the third bracket.if we were basing him on ability wise then he would be in the top bracket no doubt
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Jun 12 2009, 07:49 AM
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Jun 11 2009, 11:11 PM
there was a stupid rule where we could only field 3 non-British players, this meant leaving two of Schmeichel, Irwin, Keane, Kanchelskis or Cantona out of the team. It often came down to a pick between Schmeichel and Cantona
If he was THAT good there would be no question that he would be in the team ahead of those others , unless Irwin and kanchelskis are legends....
We had a lot of options up front though Phil, McClair, Hughes, Giggs, Kanchelskis and Sharpe could all play forward roles. After Keane and Ince we didn't really have too many quality replacements and if we didn't have Schmeichel in goal it was Gary Walsh or Les Sealey! So the best compromise for the team was to play with two of those forwards. Cantona could play and he did at times but we were considerably weaker in other areas. That 4-0 thrashing at the Nou Camp probably wouldn't have happened if Schmeichel was in goal, but that was a fantastic team Barca had nonetheless, I don't think we'd ever have beaten them anyways.

Cantona wasn't as good in Europe as he was in the league but he wasn't the hopless case some portray him as being.
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Don't think so. Legend is one of the most ridiculously over-used words in football, and i think people do mistake the term legendary status for the quality of a footballer. Different things, but the fact is, is that he will be booed when he comes back to Old Trafford, that alone, no matter how good he was, means that he can't be considered a United legend
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No way will he be booed if that unlikely event occurs.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

AntMcfc
 
Greatest ownage machine: Scholes. Absolute animal when he was a regular poster, I always knew I was in the right when he was backing me up, and I couldn't wait to read a topic that he was posting in because I knew he'd be tearing someone apart
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No he isn't. Not for me anyway. He would have been had he stayed longer without doubt. But i don't count him as a United legend.
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Come on guys, let's remember what he's done in Europe in the last 2 seasons. His goals against Roma, Lyon and Chelsea in 2008 were massive and he along with Ferdinand were the main men in winning the CL. Then the following season he contributes massively to another final with a neat header to see of Inter Milan, an amazing strike at Porto, a goal no other player can dream of scoring, followed by two different but two phenomenal goals at Arsenal to launch us to Rome.

Those two European campaigns are up there with the very very best.

Domestic achievement goes without saying, and his attitude doesn't decrease his status by so much that he's nowhere near a legend. He's at least borderline.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

AntMcfc
 
Greatest ownage machine: Scholes. Absolute animal when he was a regular poster, I always knew I was in the right when he was backing me up, and I couldn't wait to read a topic that he was posting in because I knew he'd be tearing someone apart
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I see Giggs, Scholes, Keane as legends. I don't see Ronaldo as one. If he had stayed longer he would without doubt have gone on to be...but for me he isn't quite.
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