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Topic Started: Apr 23 2009, 02:26 PM (219 Views)
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7seven7
Apr 23 2009, 04:24 PM
Anderson is one of my favourite players because of his ambition, ability and character. This season he has been a victim of Fergie not giving him enough time and enough consecutive games to settle himself. Yes he has also been in poor form but Fergies preference for the reliable but thoroughly mediocre Flecther has done Anderson no good. I expect him to be the first name on the teamsheet for CM by the end of next season.
I hope he gets consecutive games in the latter part of this season because he's going to be a top class midfielder there no doubt about that :thumbsup:
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Apr 23 2009, 04:31 PM
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Apr 23 2009, 04:24 PM
Anderson is one of my favourite players because of his ambition, ability and character. This season he has been a victim of Fergie not giving him enough time and enough consecutive games to settle himself. Yes he has also been in poor form but Fergies preference for the reliable but thoroughly mediocre Flecther has done Anderson no good. I expect him to be the first name on the teamsheet for CM by the end of next season.
I hope he gets consecutive games in the latter part of this season because he's going to be a top class midfielder there no doubt about that :thumbsup:
Yeah. I truly believe that if he developes as I hope he will then he'll be the best central midfielder in the world. A lot depends on whether he can add goals to his game, but the attacking and defensive potential is very apparant.
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Apr 23 2009, 04:24 PM
Anderson is one of my favourite players because of his ambition, ability and character. This season he has been a victim of Fergie not giving him enough time and enough consecutive games to settle himself. Yes he has also been in poor form but Fergies preference for the reliable but thoroughly mediocre Flecther has done Anderson no good. I expect him to be the first name on the teamsheet for CM by the end of next season.
Fletcher is far from mediocre and right now is comfortably better than Anderson. Anderson because of his age has been void of criticism this season; if he was 28 he would be scrutinised by the media.

But like I said, he has shown signs recently, in his last 2-3 games, that he may recover his form, and I would start him against Arsenal.

As for his vision...yes it is good, but t's hard to truly measure it due to how rarely he executes audacious passes. Vision only becomes useful if you can complement is with a pass, and Anderson can't right now, so his vision is a bit of a hindrance.
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He has all the physical tools, but does he have the brain? I am yet to be convinced. He's a rich man's Diaby at the moment. Time will tell if he can develop into an Essien/Vieira.
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I was at the Villa utd FA cup game last season an he showed some real class that night. He has the ability I just dont know whether hes gona keep growing into the player he should be. At united anyway.
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Apr 23 2009, 04:36 PM
I was at the Villa utd FA cup game last season an he showed some real class that night. He has the ability I just dont know whether hes gona keep growing into the player he should be. At united anyway.
I remeber him going on a 50 yard run as the space opened up ahead of him, but United were fucking dire that night, and I expect Anderson was too. Giggs was awful that game I seem to remember, shocking performance all round.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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^^^Ronaldo was the worst, but the cnt still scored.
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Yeah we did give him way too much space
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Apr 23 2009, 04:35 PM
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Apr 23 2009, 04:24 PM
Anderson is one of my favourite players because of his ambition, ability and character. This season he has been a victim of Fergie not giving him enough time and enough consecutive games to settle himself. Yes he has also been in poor form but Fergies preference for the reliable but thoroughly mediocre Flecther has done Anderson no good. I expect him to be the first name on the teamsheet for CM by the end of next season.
Fletcher is far from mediocre and right now is comfortably better than Anderson. Anderson because of his age has been void of criticism this season; if he was 28 he would be scrutinised by the media.

But like I said, he has shown signs recently, in his last 2-3 games, that he may recover his form, and I would start him against Arsenal.

As for his vision...yes it is good, but t's hard to truly measure it due to how rarely he executes audacious passes. Vision only becomes useful if you can complement is with a pass, and Anderson can't right now, so his vision is a bit of a hindrance.
Fletcher is far from mediocre and right now is comfortably better than Anderson. Anderson because of his age has been void of criticism this season; if he was 28 he would be scrutinised by the media.

But like I said, he has shown signs recently, in his last 2-3 games, that he may recover his form, and I would start him against Arsenal.

As for his vision...yes it is good, but t's hard to truly measure it due to how rarely he executes audacious passes. Vision only becomes useful if you can complement is with a pass, and Anderson can't right now, so his vision is a bit of a hindrance.

Fletcher is a very solid player but is completly mediocre, he's the midfield equivilant of Arbeloa. At the moment his experience is giving him a starting role, because, aside from the Roma game, he never has he dominated a midifield and never demonstrated the potential to do so. To Fletcher is a mid team level player who's making the best of his ability, Anderson is potentially a top player who is not making the best of his ability.

Personally I don't believe that Anderson has been played enough this season to be given valid criticism by the media. Yes he's been poor and done himself few favours, but players such as Scholes and Zidane have had whole seasons in which they have been poor- whilst starting in every game that they could- so for a player as young as Anderson I think its short sighted to say he's simply a poor player. Fabregas for instance has been dire this season.

Anyway, he has a lot to learn and this is mainly in terms of knowing when to be expansive and ambitious and when to keep things simple.
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Apr 23 2009, 04:35 PM
Vision only becomes useful if you can complement is with a pass, and Anderson can't right now, so his vision is a bit of a hindrance.
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Completely agree.

His situation this season is very similar to Bojan at Barcelona - had a wonderful debut season at a very young age, quickly establishing himself as a terrace favourite and leaving everyone thinking he would be a great; but then suffering from the manager's reluctance to play him as much in his second season, leaving his confidence slightly knocked and his subsequent performances not so effective.

The comparison ends here however. I would like to think that both will become top class players, but in reality Anderson has a lot more raw talent than Bojan - talent which, if honed effectively, can really establish himself as a top player. As many people have mentioned, his physical abilities are almost unparalleled in his position - though comparisons to Essien are going a bit far imo, with the latter being rather fitter and capable of influencing a game far more - but his passing, and particularly his shooting, leave a lot to be desired. A lot of this will come with experience gained through regular playing time, which I feel sure will increase for him next season, which will also do wonders for his confidence.

One of the wonders about Anderson is that he still hasn't scored his first United goal. I find this rather puzzling as it is obvious that he possesses good shooting technique and power. Perhaps a lot of his game is just played at too much of a rush in his eagerness to adapt to the tempo of Premier League too quickly.

He has proved at Gremio that he has the ability to influence the game from a creative role and once he settles down further at the club and nails down a regular starting place, he could be a real force for both United - and perhaps even Brazil in 2010.
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I'm really pleased that anderson seems to have rediscovered his form from last season, i was massively impressed by him last season particularly against gerrard at anfield. He clearly has the vision to spot a defence splitting pass but lacks the ability to execute it at the minute, his passing technique looks unnatural and uncomfortable but can obviously be worked on

Just a word on nani and andersons transfer fees, alot of people seem to think united paid 17m for each of them. In actual fact they paid 8m up front with the rest a series of add ons linked to appearences, future success etc. Nanis transfer can rise to 17m, which looks highly unlikely, and andersons to 20m
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So they will end up costing even more than we thought! :lol:

Both will turn out to be worth it imo, provided they are given a chance.
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Apr 24 2009, 08:14 AM
So they will end up costing even more than we thought! :lol:

Both will turn out to be worth it imo, provided they are given a chance.
Everybody thought nani would cost 17m, but anderson is probably more than people thought. Anderson will definately be worth it imo not so sure about nani tho
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