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Miguel Veloso
Topic Started: Jan 27 2009, 11:47 AM (813 Views)
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Jan 28 2009, 12:34 PM
DaG are you having a bloody laugh here or what, nobody is saying you need a DM in that little role you see on Football Manager, any mention of DM and you just assume we're talking about the Makelele role and also you assume DM and 4-5-1 go hand in hand and now this thread is going around in circles.

We are saying you need a MIDFIELDER who has DEFENSIVE attributes because DENILSON doesn't have them. How do you fail to realise this?

Denilson does have defensive attributes...
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Jan 28 2009, 07:35 PM
MANYOU
Jan 28 2009, 12:34 PM
DaG are you having a bloody laugh here or what, nobody is saying you need a DM in that little role you see on Football Manager, any mention of DM and you just assume we're talking about the Makelele role and also you assume DM and 4-5-1 go hand in hand and now this thread is going around in circles.

We are saying you need a MIDFIELDER who has DEFENSIVE attributes because DENILSON doesn't have them. How do you fail to realise this?

Denilson does have defensive attributes...

Shite or non existent ones. There is not a single current Arenal midfielder that would register as being more than 5/10 for their defensive qualities, Viera would have been at least a 9, Gilberto 8, Petit 8 Flamini 8
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Flamini is so overrated its unbelievable. People forget that he was a nobody before his break through. Denilson is far more talented...
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DaG you're so quick to change your mind on players. Any Arsenal fan with an ounce of sense, and has paid proper attention over the last 4 years, will tell you that Flamini is more than a one season wonder. Last season was undoubtedly his best, but he put ins ome mighty fine performances in previous seasons in an array of different positions. Maybe his consistency of last season was down to him not only playing consistently, but playing in his best position consistently?
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Jan 28 2009, 07:54 PM
Flamini is so overrated its unbelievable. People forget that he was a nobody before his break through. Denilson is far more talented...

You were saying yorself last season that Flamini was world class, so your one of those guilty for over rating him. Besides, Denilson may be more technically gifted but Flamini's defensive attributes are so much better than his that its not even funny.
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Jan 28 2009, 01:58 PM
DaG you're so quick to change your mind on players. Any Arsenal fan with an ounce of sense, and has paid proper attention over the last 4 years, will tell you that Flamini is more than a one season wonder. Last season was undoubtedly his best, but he put ins ome mighty fine performances in previous seasons in an array of different positions. Maybe his consistency of last season was down to him not only playing consistently, but playing in his best position consistently?

You want to know why Flamini played well last season? Because Wenger gave him more freedom and he wasn't so restricted. Also helped that he didn't have to carry Cesc like Denilson has had to...
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Jan 28 2009, 07:54 PM
Flamini is so overrated its unbelievable. People forget that he was a nobody before his break through. Denilson is far more talented...

non of arsenals players are anything before a break through.

denilson is not carrying fabregas, its the other way round, and its not cos hes shit, its cos they dont work, they are both forward thinking so fabregas is forced to cover were denilson isnt.

neither of them can defend worth a damn, thats why we need a dm to supliment cesc
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Jan 28 2009, 04:15 PM
non of arsenals players are anything before a break through.

denilson is not carrying fabregas, its the other way round, and its not cos hes shit, its cos they dont work, they are both forward thinking so fabregas is forced to cover were denilson isnt.

neither of them can defend worth a damn, thats why we need a dm to supliment cesc

That's bullocks. Fabregas did not put any effort in defensively early this season. Denilson had to do so much work and we were run over game after game in there.
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Jan 28 2009, 10:15 PM
non of arsenals players are anything before a break through.

denilson is not carrying fabregas, its the other way round, and its not cos hes shit, its cos they dont work, they are both forward thinking so fabregas is forced to cover were denilson isnt.

neither of them can defend worth a damn, thats why we need a dm to supliment cesc

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Correct. Both are good as the foward thinking midfielder, but you simply cannot survive in a midfield 2 where neither player will do any defensive work. Arsenal are turning into England under Sven.
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Jan 27 2009, 06:19 PM
I trust DaGunners' opinion on Veluso, I really do. Everything he says about players from other leagues seem to come true. Obviously it's a shame he makes ridiculous comments about the PL but the guy is a knowledge base and may as well be a global football scout.
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This thread is golden.
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Also, don't forget that Denilson went on to become the best ball winner in the league (tackles+interceptions) in 2008/2009.
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Scholes
Jan 27 2009, 06:19 PM
I trust DaGunners' opinion on Veluso, I really do. Everything he says about players from other leagues seem to come true. Obviously it's a shame he makes ridiculous comments about the PL but the guy is a knowledge base and may as well be a global football scout.
:hysterics: :hysterics: :hysterics:

This thread is golden.
GET IN MATE :hysterics:
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Greatest ownage machine: Scholes. Absolute animal when he was a regular poster, I always knew I was in the right when he was backing me up, and I couldn't wait to read a topic that he was posting in because I knew he'd be tearing someone apart
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Veloso is an absolute nothing player these days, in case anyone was wondering.
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