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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 21 2008, 07:21 PM (325 Views) | |
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Nov 21 2008, 07:21 PM Post #1 |
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Reading Gallas' latest quotes got me thinking. He was talking about players (allegedly Nasri and Van Persie) who had disrespected him. Then William adds that the French squad did poorly because they younger players were arrogant and thought they knew everything. He said that when he was 20 the younger players respected the older ones and would never talk back to them. Many of the clubs supporters (especially those who go on forums) harp on about buying more experience. I think that would do more worse than good. I mean, these youngsters seem to show no respect to the vetrans,and it comes straight from the wages structure IMO. Our wage structure is one of the highest in the league, but it is set up so that we don't have very high earners at the top. The wages are more spread out, and younger players here earn far more than younger players elsewhere. I think this has led to a lot of our youngsters being complacent and disrespectful. I remember when Keown came to help out with the defense during out CL run a few seasons ago. Apparently he left his position on bad terms because an Arsenal player (allegedly Senderos) didn't want his advice and disrespected him. I also remember at Stoke this season Song deliberately ignored an order from Kolo to stay back when we had a corner. He just looked at him and turned around and kept running towards the oppositions box. This cannot be tolerated. I also remember Henry talking about how pampered the young players were and that they didn't work hard in training. He said that they would just pass the ball expecting something magic to happen. They get this sense of entitlement because Wenger is always blames the opposition or the referees when we don't win. The players have taken the same attitude. You can see how complacent they are in smaller games. I remember when we lost to Sheffield a few seasons back and in the tunnel after the game Cesc was saying to the Sheffield players how much more money he makes. The arrogance amongst out young players is unreal. Gallas is correct in the spirit he want to create. We need more fight and less talk. How many Arsenal players do you think would go to war to win a game? I can only say Gallas and Clichy out of this squad, maybe Ade. Wenger needs to go I think. Or else nothing will change... |
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| Homer | Nov 21 2008, 07:36 PM Post #2 |
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I said months ago that clowns needs to go. |
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Nov 21 2008, 07:37 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah but when you said it it was a knee jerk reaction, I have put some serious thought into it and it really hurts me to see that its time for a change... |
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| jeebus | Nov 21 2008, 07:39 PM Post #4 |
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its funny how easy you insult probably your best and most important manager ever... fair enough, you can say its time to go but it speaks to the core of your character how quickly you turn |
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PaulPinpointSCHOLES Nov 19 2008, 10:04 PM Ok ok Jeebus, you win, Homer is LFC19YEARS...Homer will comfirm it shortly I'm sure. | |
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| Homer | Nov 21 2008, 07:40 PM Post #5 |
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Im sorry but I am a winner and I dont accept average or fools no matter who it is. Even if he was my dad I would demand for him to be sacked. |
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| ManYou | Nov 21 2008, 07:43 PM Post #6 |
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Of course he is the problem, he thinks a bunch of teenagers can win a league with Utd and Chelsea in it. Wenger is a great coach but an average manager, he is a serious optimist who thinks his brilliant philosophy in football will conquer the football world. Almost dillusional IMO. Since the amazing back 4 he inherited left the club he just bought kiddie after kiddie and talked about potential, then they get older, he sells them, gets more kids and talks about potential...... He wont ever buy experienced players i can almost gaurentee that, he wants to build a team of kids that will win the league thats his idea its so clear for everyone to see. |
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| jeebus | Nov 21 2008, 07:44 PM Post #7 |
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what exactly have you won? surely you didn't think that Arsenal were going to have success year after year after year? that is beside's the point anyway, even if he has made too many mistakes now and even if he should go why can't you just say thank you for a brilliant 10 years but now is time to go... no you must lead with vile on your tongue and wish death upon him ...
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PaulPinpointSCHOLES Nov 19 2008, 10:04 PM Ok ok Jeebus, you win, Homer is LFC19YEARS...Homer will comfirm it shortly I'm sure. | |
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| Homer | Nov 21 2008, 07:48 PM Post #8 |
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OK STUFF YOU WENGER STUFF YOU IT IS TIME TO GO BECAUSE YOU REALLY PISS ME OFF MATE AND YOU MAKE A NICE CALM GUY LIKE ME ANGRY BECAUSE YOU ARE SO CLUELESS AND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU DO AND SAY BAFFLES ME AND IT IS ABOUT TIME YOU PACKED YOUR PACKS AND FUCKED OFF OUT OF HERE. WE NEED A WARRIOR LIKE JOSE MOURINHO WHO WILL FIGHT WHO WILL NOT MAKE SO MANY EXCUSES WHO WILL DIE TO WIN NOT SOME GUY WHO GETS ON EVERYBODIES NERVES. GALLAS IS GONE AND YOU CAN GO WITH HIM MATE BECAUSE YOUR TIME IS UP. TOMORROW IS A BIG MATCH AND IM REALLY UP FOR IT. |
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Nov 21 2008, 07:49 PM Post #9 |
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I would love it if Mourinho came here... |
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| Homer | Nov 21 2008, 07:52 PM Post #10 |
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I DONT EXPECT ARSENAL TO WIN EVERY YEAR BUT IT HAS BEEN FAR TOO LONG SINCE ARSENAL WERE SUCCESSFUL AND HE MADE THE GREATEST TEAM IN ENGLAND TO A JOKE IN SPACE OF COUPLE OF YEARS AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF HE WAS IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE BY NOW. I DONT CARE ABOUT SILVERWARE EVERY SEASON ALL I CARE ABOUT IS CHARACTER AND COMMITMENT. |
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| jeebus | Nov 21 2008, 07:52 PM Post #11 |
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when did mourihno die to win? would be brilliant if Arsenal after being spoiled for 10 years got their wish and played with Mourihno's boring football wenger can come take over from fergie for a few years
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PaulPinpointSCHOLES Nov 19 2008, 10:04 PM Ok ok Jeebus, you win, Homer is LFC19YEARS...Homer will comfirm it shortly I'm sure. | |
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| Homer | Nov 21 2008, 07:54 PM Post #12 |
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Oh dont give me all that shit you know Wenger is fucking us up so dont make out he is our saviour. |
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| ManYou | Nov 21 2008, 07:55 PM Post #13 |
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Mourinho?.....But your nice football would dissapear and crowds will start chanting "Boring boring Arsenal" again. Do you really want that? I dont mind, I miss that chant but for Arsenal fans watching lovely football for 10 years id imagine watching efficient football would be quite hard to digest. |
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| jeebus | Nov 21 2008, 07:56 PM Post #14 |
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without wenger you wouldnt have anything to sheep up in the first place... without wenger you would be the same boring shit team playing at highbury you were before he took over |
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PaulPinpointSCHOLES Nov 19 2008, 10:04 PM Ok ok Jeebus, you win, Homer is LFC19YEARS...Homer will comfirm it shortly I'm sure. | |
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Nov 21 2008, 07:57 PM Post #15 |
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Our beautiful football wouldn't disappear, Inter are playing some good stuff this season. It was about the players Mourinho had at his disposal. It was far easier to go uber defensive rather than attacking... |
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