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Newcastle Vs City
Topic Started: Oct 20 2008, 07:18 PM (2,793 Views)
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lewins7
Oct 20 2008, 11:40 PM
PaulPinpointSCHOLES
Oct 20 2008, 10:37 PM
How on earth can you know that?

I've just watched the replay online and it is simply impossible to tell whether Beye's knocked Robinho off-balance (thigh area) before or after he made contact with the ball. It was too close to see and I doubt any angles were caught that can clear up the situation.

because i've just watched it again on television not some crappy quality vid off the internet, he got a touch Scholes, and thast as martin would have said is a FACT. no matter how much of a touch it was he did definatly get the ball ad it was a brilliant tackle, too good obviosly

He got the ball but from the vid I watched (not crappy quality at all!), it is impossible to tell whether contact of the player was made before contact of the ball.
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Who gives a shit about all that now did anyone see the FUCKING sly look at the ref that Robinho did :cheers:
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lewins7
Oct 20 2008, 10:40 PM
PaulPinpointSCHOLES
Oct 20 2008, 10:37 PM
How on earth can you know that?

I've just watched the replay online and it is simply impossible to tell whether Beye's knocked Robinho off-balance (thigh area) before or after he made contact with the ball. It was too close to see and I doubt any angles were caught that can clear up the situation.

because i've just watched it again on television not some crappy quality vid off the internet, he got a touch Scholes, and thast as martin would have said is a FACT. no matter how much of a touch it was he did definatly get the ball ad it was a brilliant tackle, too good obviosly

He went through Robinho, you can't deny that. In slow motion he got the ball but in real speed it was hardly even a touch. Not enough to make the ball deviate in any way. Beye took down Robinho and that warrants a penalty because even if he did get the ball first he didn't clear it away from danger. If he got the ball away from Robinho it would have been a different story.
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Another talking point - is tackling from behind allowed?
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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Oct 20 2008, 10:41 PM
'Cos he's unbiased and putting your opinions to shame. Your opinions have no basis, and he can see right through that.

No, he never watched the game Ant you fool so how have my comments not got any basis but his has? what a stupid statement to make.

And scholes for god sake he DID get the ball. I dont talk shit and I watched the full 90 minutes

Here is a professional analasys Scholes read it and ant grow up for good sake.

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Stephen Ireland scored a late equaliser as Newcastle and Manchester City played out a dramatic 2-2 draw.

City were awarded a controversial penalty in the 14th minute when Habib Beye was sent off by referee Rob Styles despite appearing to win the ball in a challenge with Robinho and the Brazilian slotted home the spot-kick.

Newcastle battled back and drew level at 1-1 just before half-time when the ball broke for Shola Ameobi and the striker sliced a shot past Joe Hart.

The Magpies continued to push forward at the start of the second half and were rewarded when Richard Dunne inadvertently turned Geremi's corner into his own net after 63 minutes.

Shay Given pulled off an excellent save from Ireland late on but the City midfielder was not to be denied and salvaged a point for his side four minutes from time.

Horror start
Beye had earlier handed his manager a boost by recovering from the Achilles injury which had sidelined him since the end of August, but his return was to end prematurely and in controversial circumstances.

Robinho looked to have got the better of the Senegal international as he burst into the box, but the defender dived in to poke the ball away.

However, to his horror, referee Styles pointed to the spot and to compound Beye's astonishment, then produced a red card despite replays suggesting he had a good case.

Keeper Given pleaded with Styles to consult his assistant, who had not flagged for the incident, but he was having none of it and the distraught defender had to go.

Robinho calmly converted from 12 yards, sending the keeper the wrong way and leaving a club without a league win since 23rd August with a mountain to climb.

It could have been worse with Jo only just failing to covert a deflected Robinho shot and former Magpie Dietmar Hamann heading a Javier Garrido corner inches over with the Magpies at sixes and sevens.

But as they did at Everton a fortnight ago, Joe Kinnear's men found a fighting spirit in adversity and managed to drag themselves back into the game.

They could have been level 10 minutes before the break when Obafemi Martins and Ameobi combined to set up Damien Duff, although his shot was saved easily by Hart.

However, the equaliser did arrive nine minutes later when Dunne smashed a clearance against the unwitting Duff and when the ball ricocheted to Ameobi, he controlled and managed to steer it past the keeper to repay Kinnear's faith in him.


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Both Sebastien Bassong and Martins were guilty of handing City possession deep in enemy territory within seconds of the restart, but Ireland was unable to make the most of a promising opening.

But for all City once again dominated possession, Newcastle repeatedly threatened on the break with Duff and Martins, who had adapted well to the role of left-sided midfielder after a shaky start following the reorganisation caused by Beye's departure, keeping City on their toes.

Ameobi too was proving a handful for Dunne to give the home crowd genuine hope that there was more to come.

Their prayers were answered with 64 minutes gone when, in his attempt to clear Geremi's right-wing corner, Dunne smashed the ball into the roof of his own net to send St James' Park into raptures.

But the job was far from complete and Steven Taylor was relieved to see a shot from substitute Ched Evans loop up off him and clear the bar, with Jo doing the same with the header from the resulting corner.

Given produced a stunning save to deny Ireland six minutes from time, but he could not repeat the feat two minutes later as the midfielder fired home from close range to claim a point.


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AntMcfc
Oct 20 2008, 11:45 PM
lewins7
Oct 20 2008, 10:40 PM
PaulPinpointSCHOLES
Oct 20 2008, 10:37 PM
How on earth can you know that?

I've just watched the replay online and it is simply impossible to tell whether Beye's knocked Robinho off-balance (thigh area) before or after he made contact with the ball. It was too close to see and I doubt any angles were caught that can clear up the situation.

because i've just watched it again on television not some crappy quality vid off the internet, he got a touch Scholes, and thast as martin would have said is a FACT. no matter how much of a touch it was he did definatly get the ball ad it was a brilliant tackle, too good obviosly

He went through Robinho, you can't deny that. In slow motion he got the ball but in real speed it was hardly even a touch. Not enough to make the ball deviate in any way. Beye took down Robinho and that warrants a penalty because even if he did get the ball first he didn't clear it away from danger. If he got the ball away from Robinho it would have been a different story.

That is a valid point and also outlines how slow-motion can often be less conclusive than real time.
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In that 'professional analysis' it says Beye poked the ball away, he didn't, he barely touched it, and went through Robinho in doing so. Penalty.
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lewins7
Oct 20 2008, 11:46 PM
No, he never watched the game Ant you fool so how have my comments not got any basis but his has? what a stupid statement to make.

And scholes for god sake he DID get the ball. I dont talk shit and I watched the full 90 minutes

Here is a professional analasys Scholes read it and ant grow up for good sake.

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Stephen Ireland scored a late equaliser as Newcastle and Manchester City played out a dramatic 2-2 draw.

City were awarded a controversial penalty in the 14th minute when Habib Beye was sent off by referee Rob Styles despite appearing to win the ball in a challenge with Robinho and the Brazilian slotted home the spot-kick.

Newcastle battled back and drew level at 1-1 just before half-time when the ball broke for Shola Ameobi and the striker sliced a shot past Joe Hart.

The Magpies continued to push forward at the start of the second half and were rewarded when Richard Dunne inadvertently turned Geremi's corner into his own net after 63 minutes.

Shay Given pulled off an excellent save from Ireland late on but the City midfielder was not to be denied and salvaged a point for his side four minutes from time.

Horror start
Beye had earlier handed his manager a boost by recovering from the Achilles injury which had sidelined him since the end of August, but his return was to end prematurely and in controversial circumstances.

Robinho looked to have got the better of the Senegal international as he burst into the box, but the defender dived in to poke the ball away.

However, to his horror, referee Styles pointed to the spot and to compound Beye's astonishment, then produced a red card despite replays suggesting he had a good case.

Keeper Given pleaded with Styles to consult his assistant, who had not flagged for the incident, but he was having none of it and the distraught defender had to go.

Robinho calmly converted from 12 yards, sending the keeper the wrong way and leaving a club without a league win since 23rd August with a mountain to climb.

It could have been worse with Jo only just failing to covert a deflected Robinho shot and former Magpie Dietmar Hamann heading a Javier Garrido corner inches over with the Magpies at sixes and sevens.

But as they did at Everton a fortnight ago, Joe Kinnear's men found a fighting spirit in adversity and managed to drag themselves back into the game.

They could have been level 10 minutes before the break when Obafemi Martins and Ameobi combined to set up Damien Duff, although his shot was saved easily by Hart.

However, the equaliser did arrive nine minutes later when Dunne smashed a clearance against the unwitting Duff and when the ball ricocheted to Ameobi, he controlled and managed to steer it past the keeper to repay Kinnear's faith in him.


Handful
Both Sebastien Bassong and Martins were guilty of handing City possession deep in enemy territory within seconds of the restart, but Ireland was unable to make the most of a promising opening.

But for all City once again dominated possession, Newcastle repeatedly threatened on the break with Duff and Martins, who had adapted well to the role of left-sided midfielder after a shaky start following the reorganisation caused by Beye's departure, keeping City on their toes.

Ameobi too was proving a handful for Dunne to give the home crowd genuine hope that there was more to come.

Their prayers were answered with 64 minutes gone when, in his attempt to clear Geremi's right-wing corner, Dunne smashed the ball into the roof of his own net to send St James' Park into raptures.

But the job was far from complete and Steven Taylor was relieved to see a shot from substitute Ched Evans loop up off him and clear the bar, with Jo doing the same with the header from the resulting corner.

Given produced a stunning save to deny Ireland six minutes from time, but he could not repeat the feat two minutes later as the midfielder fired home from close range to claim a point.

For crying out loud, I've already said he got the ball, I'm not blind, but whether he got player a split second before it is the ISSUE, and an issue that seems inconclusive from the picture I took the time to capture. Page 10.

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Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Oct 20 2008, 10:42 PM
I am arguing against specific comments from facts I am aware of.

Anyway, how you keeping mate?

i'm fine mate, probably have a look over here a bit often as i've favorited the link now.
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lewins7
Oct 20 2008, 11:49 PM
PaulPinpointSCHOLES
Oct 20 2008, 10:42 PM
I am arguing against specific comments from facts I am aware of.

Anyway, how you keeping mate?

i'm fine mate, probably have a look over here a bit often as i've favorited the link now.

You're more than welcome mate.
Scholes
 

Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

AntMcfc
 
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Oct 20 2008, 10:48 PM
In that 'professional analysis' it says Beye poked the ball away, he didn't, he barely touched it, and went through Robinho in doing so. Penalty.

Ant do you honestly think I would take your bollox opinions over a man whos job it is to do such thing.

You believe City are a star studded team, they aren't they are avaerage as was proved today.

Scholes sorry mate I missed your post.
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average? what a numbty
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and if it makes us average you gotta be very poor
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8 games into the season lads...
Scholes
 

Seriously, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend of the game. He needs to be recognised in some way eg. Frank Lampard OBE, Sir Frank Lampard or some kind of lifetime achievement award.

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Oct 20 2008, 10:52 PM
average? what a numbty

what, do you believe you are anything more than an average premiership side? you realy aren't, sory if I offended you but what exactly makes yous a great side at the minute?
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